Volume 7 Chapter 12 spoilers for Rooster Teeth’s, RWBY.
RWBY Fanatics on Twitter are outraged… yet again. This time however, they’re actually turning their anger on Rooster Teeth. Here’s why;
Clover, one of the new characters introduced in RWBY Volume 7 and leader of the Ace Ops, ends the episode mortally wounded.
The problem some people on Twitter have with this is that they claim Rooster Teeth has “queerbaited” them for killing off Clover, Qrow’s romantic interest… Except they never had a romantic interest to begin with. Some people on Twitter completely misinterpreted this.
It was obvious to most that they were potentially going to be friends and that’s it. If you watch RWBY, you know very well that Qrow needs all the friends he can get. Qrow is a bit of a loner, he doesn’t have many friends left, and it would be healthy for him to have some.
Especially gaining a friend like Clover, who has a similar semblance and experience leading. Something Qrow can learn from as he lacks such experience despite having to step up at times and lead those who look up to him.
So how did this start, why do some people think that Qrow and Clover were meant to be a couple despite Rooster Teeth making it very clear that was never the case? So clear as a matter afact, that even in the newest Chapter ( where Clover dies ), Qrow and Clover refer to themselves as friends. Yet even with all of that, people must be outraged about something, that’s how Twitter is.
The misinterpretation by these people will be explained now;
It all started in RWBY Volume 7 Chapter 3, “Ace Ops”.
First, a moment where Clover catches Qrow and stops him from falling.
Then a moment where Qrow stops Clover from getting hit by a falling piece of metal and ruble.
And finally a scene where Clover winks at Qrow.
The context behind the wink and even the scenes where each helps each other, is because Clover’s semblance is Good Fortune and Qrow’s is Misfortune. The two play off eachother because their semblances are so similar and as mentioned, Qrow can learn how to lead better from Clover, and the two can also develop a healthy friendship.
Qrow is hard on himself because he feels that his semblance negatively effects those around him and Clover jokes around saying “Well hey, don’t beat yourself up about it. My semblance is good fortune, lucky you huh?” Before giving that wink.
It’s apparent that Clover is just a charismatic, confident, and charming guy. That’s just his demeanor. It was never an indication that the two were meant to romantically date and let me remind you once again; Rooster Teeth even had the characters flat out state that they are friends.Β
Now knowing the backstory, incase you didn’t already, let’s take a look at the outrage;
Anyways I'm Fucking Killing The RWBY Writers Goddammit Fuck
— airam (@airam413) January 25, 2020
NOPE I WASN'T PREPARED, FUCK YOU ROOSTERTEETH #RWBY
— That one guy (@OddballAPR) January 25, 2020
fuck rwby. seriously.
— zah is grieving (@bumblbs) January 25, 2020
What the fuck was that bullshit rwby ill kill u
— sometimes i think about jonmartin and i cry (@LiterallyWhoTf) January 25, 2020
Seen a lot of posts about how CRWBY didn't MEAN to make us feel like this, no harm intended, etc.
Except it's 2020. Queer folks have BEEN having this discussion. If you're going to portray LGBT relationships in ANY capacity, do ur homework.
It's 2020 and ignorance IS malicious.
— π Wu Ming (@Agent_R24) January 28, 2020
βcouples have had so far. These characters spent an entire season at each other's side, had heavy romantic coding and unnecessary flirting scenes, and was teased by official accounts. In the latest episode, the new character was brutally murdered with the old character's weapon.β
— π Wu Ming (@Agent_R24) January 28, 2020
mlm couple the show had after 7 years.
— π Wu Ming (@Agent_R24) January 28, 2020
The way that entire scene played out was so fucked up: dying to Qrow's weapon, teaming up with a serial killer, the light fading from Clover's eyes. They thought they achieved dramatic brilliance but it was really just their hate of gay men shining through. #RWBY #RWBY7
— RWBY-hates-gay-men (@PanlieisCanon) January 25, 2020
fuck off, mlm deserve wins too
— RWBY-hates-gay-men (@PanlieisCanon) January 25, 2020
Speaking for myself and @jeremyboss007, cuz he wanted you to know as well, we thought the new #RWBY7 ep was technically fantastic, BUT we are very disappointed by the circumstances surrounding a certain decision that was made. #RWBY7spoilers
— Thomas Vaccaro πΉπ³οΈβππππ€ (@UnicornOfWar) January 25, 2020
For clarification, and for future advice, NEVER tease a same-sex pairing you know will never happen, ESPECIALLY if it will end in tragedy, unless you have the balls to outright confirm it in-show. #RWBY7spoilers
— Thomas Vaccaro πΉπ³οΈβππππ€ (@UnicornOfWar) January 25, 2020
Bumbleby does not give them a pass on this, esp. knowing full well what Lucky Charms meant for male LGBT rep as well as bisexual rep. This goes for the moments that contain romantic subtext and the official Twitter's constant teasing.
— Thomas Vaccaro πΉπ³οΈβππππ€ (@UnicornOfWar) January 25, 2020
That all said, we still LOVED the rest of that chapter. Unfortunately that one thing left a bad taste in our mouths, and we hope #RWBY won't repeat this. The show is better than this. #RWBY7Spoilers
— Thomas Vaccaro πΉπ³οΈβππππ€ (@UnicornOfWar) January 25, 2020
pissed at r**ster t**th
— RWBY VOLUME 7!!!! (@voxariss) January 25, 2020
they (VERY, VERY LIKELY) killed one. 1st on screen mlm rep of the show and BAM. dead
— RWBY VOLUME 7!!!! (@voxariss) January 25, 2020
Here fanart I completed of them yesterday fuck roosterteeth man I cant have one good thing course Bumblebee is okay cause lesbian ships are so much more accepted than gay ones fuck thus shit man I just wanted qrow to be happy#fairgame #rwby pic.twitter.com/Y6F6L8DmW2
— Totally_not_a_skinwalker (@bigpanbinch) January 25, 2020
appereantly the new rwby episode fucked up so hard my tl is full of hate against it and i feel bad for everyone
why would you ever queerbait and kill off queer characters for shock value in 2020
what a shame im happy i never watched this show now
— π³οΈβπππ¦thingπ¦ππ³οΈβπ@ I'm really enjoying LoL (@TheThingUnder) January 25, 2020
[rant time]I'm feeling so horrible.. i feel exactly the same way i did back in when vld pulled that shit with adam in season 7.. i still cant believe i got queerbaited and hit with the bury your gays troupe twice.. when will there ever be decent mlm rep in western animation..
— Oneirio (@Oneirio) January 25, 2020
clover was literally the healthiest relationship qrow ever had and somehow yall r like "huh? they were just friends??" SHUT UP i see your double standards. rwby is a show that leans incredibly heavily on subtext with its relationships, even rennora was never explicitly-
— Oneirio (@Oneirio) January 25, 2020
see that shit.. crwby knew what they were doing and to pull this shit on their mlm fans fucking hurts so much because this happens all the fucking time, gays always get killed in the name of "upping the stakes" in shows and i for one am fucking sick and tired of it.. GOD
— Oneirio (@Oneirio) January 25, 2020
anyway I've been depressed about this long enough, its 4am I'm gonna try to sleep now and then wake up and completely regret posting this in the morning lol
— Oneirio (@Oneirio) January 25, 2020
The thing is, there is this little trupe that's everywhere in media called burry your gays. And I don't think this would have counted towards the trope if it was a wlw person dying. But Qrow and Clover having feelings for each other was at least heavily hinted at. And [1/?]
— janaπ‘οΈ #RWBY spoilers (@goodgirljana) January 25, 2020
they were the only mlm rep in the show not counting Scarlett (who has only been in one volume and confirmed in a manga). It's so rare to see mlm rep in media amd not have it be tragig or other problematic stuff. This is why it hurts some people so much, especially those [2/?]
— janaπ‘οΈ #RWBY spoilers (@goodgirljana) January 25, 2020
RWBY IS THE WORST THE SHOW IN ALL OF ANY PIECE OF CREATIVE MEDIA I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE
— π Queen of The New Year πβ’ (@Layla_0w0) January 25, 2020
THEY COULD'VE BEEN SO GAY AND GOOD TOGETHER
— π Queen of The New Year πβ’ (@Layla_0w0) January 25, 2020
RWBY HOMOPHOBIC RWBY HATES GAYS RWBY GAY KILLER RWBY HATE CRIMES
— megamind #β (@megamind_0) January 25, 2020
appereantly the new rwby episode fucked up so hard my tl is full of hate against it and i feel bad for everyone
why would you ever queerbait and kill off queer characters for shock value in 2020
what a shame im happy i never watched this show now
— π³οΈβπππ¦thingπ¦ππ³οΈβπ@ I'm really enjoying LoL (@TheThingUnder) January 25, 2020
CRWBY: We wonβt bury our gays
Also CRWBY: So we are going to throw hints for these two guys, have them flirt the whole season, then have our hero team up with the bad guy (???) to fight his friend, and have him die under a bi sky after the bad guy stabs him with the heroβs sword.— Pumpkaboop (@martincobblepot) January 25, 2020
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Just a river of salt.
Some people need straight jackets and a quiet padded room; it was heavily stated that they were friends.
Jesus fucking christ.
*rant.exe initiated*
These people are so Goddamn desparate for validation they pour all of their misguided ideologies onto a fictional show and use the absolute bare minimum, highly circumstantial evidence to justify their view.
Like NyanNet wrote said in their article above. There was no goddamn evidence of Qrow and Clover’s relationship being anything more than a platonic friendship. Literally everything about their interactions spelled out Bros. Clover’s flamboyant (and I’m talking about the standard dictionary definition of the word, not its connotation in connection with the LGBTQ community) nature was just that. His nature. He acted with the same amount of charm and charisma around LITERALLY everyone in the show. There were no exceptions for Qrow.
It’s like looking at Shepard and Garrus from Mass Effect or Turk and JD from Scrubs and saying, “Those two are 100% gay for each other because they’re two men who are friendly toward each other despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary!”.
-_-
I have seen the bright side of the RWBY fan base. I engage with it often and relish in its company. It has brilliant creativity and despite some arguing over ships (most of which takes place while ignoring Canon to ensure shit like the above doesn’t happen) it’s exactly what a fan base should be.
But every so often I’m reminded of the darker side of the RWBY fan base. The side that believes they know better than everyone else how RWBY should be. The side that tries to push ulterior agendas on a show in which such things would be absolutely out of place. The side that tries to tear down the legacy of a brilliant man who wanted nothing more to spread joy to the world through his creativity.
To those who partake in and incite that side of the fan base, shame on you. YOU are what’s wrong with RWBY. Rooster Teeth can make all the poor decisions they want, but at the end of the day it’s YOU who paints the community of RWBY as a vile, toxic waste dump of entitled, pompous asshats. Monty would be so goddamn disappointed seeing you lot do what you do.
And while I’m at it, I’ll say it.
This kind of shit is exactly the reason the LGBTQ community has faced/is facing so much ridicule. As someone who is bisexual and very much in favor of equalizing LGBTQ individuals with the rest of the world, it makes me sick to see this kind of stuff.
Forced inclusion =/= equality.
LGBTQ representation in media should not be solely for the sake of having the representation present. It should add to the characters and plot and story in a way that doesn’t try to plaster political opinions all over the screens of viewers. If a show is about a group of girls fighting eldritch abominations in an effort to save a highly complex and divided world, don’t make a character LGBTQ and try to put it in the limelight just because. If it’s absolutely relevant to the story, sure, go ahead and make the distinctions. But make damned sure it’s done in a tasteful, non-self fulfilling manner.
The best case in RWBY I can cite is Terra and Saphron. They showed up, obviously are lesbians, but the show doesn’t dwell on it. It’s a fact within the universe as a whole that develops the character and that’s it. There’s no massive difference between their romance and Nora and Ren’s.
Which brings me to my next point.
As a member of the LGBTQ community, I can say with absolute certainty that a person’s sexual orientation and/or gender identity has absolutely no bearing on a person’s character. Gay, straight, trans, whatever, we are LITERALLY the same. A person’s actions should define a person, not who they like to sleep with.
And let me tell all you bigots out there toiling in your non-existent superiority. Your actions paint you as nothing but sad, desperate little people who have no idea how to function in society.
You want equality and proper representation? How about you try not acting like spoiled children for a change? Maybe then people will start taking you seriously.
And for the love of whatever God you believe in, leave RWBY alone.
*Rant over*
@Dagoron
That was indeed a very epic rant. Well done, and nice points, also nice name. Fun to say!
I wouldn’t have minded if they had been romantically interested in eachother but I think it’s also heavily implied that Qrow had feelings for Summer. Him being romantically involved with Clover would also make sense but they can’t complain since they’ve established Blake and Yang as a couple with that scene between Ren and Nora and Jaune’s sister is a lesbian. They’re literally crying because EVERY SINGLE LETTER OF THE LGBQABCDEFG community hasn’t been represented but thats actually just an unreasonable request. It blows my mind that they can complain so much like if you want it done do it your damn self and stop forcing others to cater to you. End rant.